@matthewpmunger very respectfully, I’m a little concerned that you took the time to “like” @Pablo_Cortes’s comment (which, although I acknowledge was made with the best of intentions to help answer my question, was based on an incorrect interpretation of my scenario) yesterday, yet 24 hrs later have not taken a moment to answer my query that was posed directly to you a couple of posts up?
Come on bud, this isn’t a good look at all. Webflow can’t marketing spin its way out of this one, and at the moment the silence is deafening.
And this is before Memberships and Logic are factored in. If these are included at a specific tier level at no extra cost some will be very happy, but I’d be surprised, and I can only see them making a complex pricing system even more so to the point of being undecipherable and a barrier to newcomers.
new pricing system seems like Webflow’s strategy is to eliminate all freelancers and dedicate the platform to agencies only! Webflow this is horrible! hope other no code platforms will get better and better so we can all leave!
I have been a long time supporter of Webflow, pretty much since its inception.
On this occasion, it does feel like they underestimated the concerning feedback. I would imagine they expected some backlash hence the spin to soften the blow, but the wave of ill-feeling towards this move is starting to become a tsunami.
It might well be there are only a few alternate options for no-code freelancers at this time, but when trust has been eroded people will and do jump ship.
Loyalty has been built between Webflow and its customers because of the shared ethos and product. When a company appears out of step with their customers it can do untold damage. Especially when they appear the be steadfast.
I believe this was a bad judgement call. Internally, they convinced each other this was the correct solution to scale and generate increased revenue. Unfortunately, sentiment is saying otherwise. While this will no doubt be pushed through and stay (too much time and effort to get to this stage has been spent), I would imagine they might lose some of the core supporters - which may be many.
I do hope they choose to go back to the table and reconsider some of their new pricing plans. If they do, it might make them look a little foolish and unprofessional, but it will be negligible compared to bum-rushing this new pricing structure through.YMMV.
Webflow don’t seem so good at thinking through actual use cases. I’ve been asking them to include “case studies” on their pricing page for years, and they had a great opportunity with a new pricing structure, but decided not to. So people are just as confused as before as to what plan to choose.
Hey Perovoj, I work at a creative agency and the new pricing is a raw deal for us too. I’ve heard a few freelancers make comments like yours - that Webflow is dedicate towards agencies only, however I don’t see it that way. Or maybe I’m missing something? Can you help me understand why you think agencies benefit over freelancers with this pricing change?
Totally, a year ago the idea seem to be to load up your own account with lots of client website and use their Client Billing feature. This option doesn’t work with my the agency I work for. Then Webflow started pushing Team and that all clients should have their own Team account with an extra seat on each for agency support. Now I don’t really know what the best arrangement is. A few case studies explaining a recommended approach with a table showing the numbers would really help… or they could massively simplify the whole pricing model.
Wow… this is just… terrible, I guess.
I’ve been with Webflow for a few months and was initially thrilled. But the satisfaction curve was constantly going down and has reached a new low with this “innovation”, especially regarding the prices for me as a freelancer.
“Furthermore, our support team is also here to work with you on additional time extensions to this transition window”
Time extensions? For real? Like Adobe did after their user backlash? C’mon dude.
Like everyone else I’m a bit confused at how this helps or what functionality is added? Without site-level access, it doesn’t seem all that different than what we currently have with Teams.
We’re a small two person agency so our likely cost will rise 40% like seemingly everyone else. 10 unhosted sites is about 210 unhosted less than what we currently have for testing, experimenting, backups of sites we’ve transferred out, idea sites, etc.
I was excited for teams\collaborators because at times we are too busy and I need to bring in another developer to work on a site. This appears possible but at a substantial price. Hypothetical…if the person I’m invited to my workspace already has another Webflow account (let’s say a Core Plan) do I still have to pay for his seat on my plan? In that example wouldn’t Webflow be getting paid twice…one for his plan and then once for adding a seat to my plan?
I agree with the rest, here. This is a really, really poor solution for anyone who builds websites for clients, hosts them, and now needs to share development access with the client. It’s absolutely undoable.
We’ve been waiting for months/years for this capability, we have to wait until summer now to get it (it was promised in Jan), and now when we finally do get it, the pricing is just not realistic. I’m tired of defending Webflow to my clients who just want Wordpress. Collaboration with the client is easier. Hosting offers more choice. Pricing is reasonable. And I can actually feel good about making money since I don’t have to charge unreasonably high prices.
I think I have no choice but to head back to Wordpress.
As someone who’s growing their freelance business using Webflow, I’m disappointed by this answer. You acknowledge that “freelancers rely on the functionality of Pro account plans to back up client sites, share cloneables with the community, and contribute to a more vibrant Webflow Showcase” and that “the new collaboration features offered in the Growth plan aren’t something that many solo freelancers need” but aren’t willing to create a plan for that use case?
The discount is maybe a short term solution for existing pro account freelancers, but for me, someone using the lite account and planning to keep on growing the number of sites I backup, clone or showcase, I will still have to upgrade to the Growth plan at some point and have to pay this crazy price with features I don’t need (not planning to grow an agency). So, what about all the new freelancers joining Webflow?
Do I need to upgrade to the pro account now while I still can and apply for a discount?
Hi there, What makes you think that? I’m just curious, but the badly needed items on the Wishlist have been ignored. Webflow boasted a huge funding round, money was not the issue? It seems they chose to ignore the user base and build features we don’t need at all instead of the Wishlist we asked for – and then increase the price for it. If you have some information that suggests there will be an improvement to the product with real benefits needed for our clients, please let everyone know. For those of us on the verge of leaving before another Adobe Business Catalyst style disaster, we need more than ‘hope’.
