@garymichael1313 thank you again g… i recreated the issue again do to the fact that once i did get the symbol to unlink and moved forward editing i forgot to set a sub defining class… having to restart that section again. i took the same steps as previously posted to create the symbol and again couldn’t unlink the symbol… original or another placed one. if i close out of WF and don’t click out of error msgs and reopen, it doesn’t save the “frozen” symbol, but if i click out of the 3 errors its frozen for good and i have to restore.