I need your opinion on somethingâŚ
I have a vision for the âEdit onlyâ mode since quite a while and I want to know what you think about.
HERE IS MY VISION
I want to have a Drag & Drop Website Builder inside the âEdit onlyâ mode like Typo3, Drupal, etc.
This allows us to give our clients a user-account with the role âedit onlyâ where they can freely build pages and add/remove/rearrange elements and edit content as they need.
To achieve this, we need 4 different features:
Make Components available in âEdit onlyâ mode
Ability to add/remove pages in âEdit onlyâ mode
New element âDynamic Navigationâ
With this element you can create a navigation that automatically creates a new link in the navigation when you create a new page as an Editor
Expand the capabilities of Components
New property âBackground Videoâ
New property âLottie Fileâ
New property âColorâ
Compontent Slots (coming soon)
What do you think?
Any criticism or additions are welcome
This is how it is done in the tools I use and my clients can easily construct pages from components that I have coded and retain structural control over. They get the freedom that they want and I keep the sites operating and rendering as they should. Makes it easy to implement changes and improvments. Great news is you can accomplish this off Webflow. Bad news is you canât do it here at this time. Maybe someday Webflow will provide a roadmap can use to keep track of what they are planning. The wishlist is a dumpster fire.
Thats exactly how it should be and what I would love to see in Webflow!
It looks a bit like Webflow is slowly moving towards something like this.
The Slots-feature that they announced for the Components is a small step in the right direction.
But if they keep the pace that they have right now, it will be 2035 when we get there
They teased something like this in this years Conf so hopefully we see some updates on this early next year. Thankfully itâs not something I find folks asking for that often (if itâs needed I suggest other platforms) but itâs definitely a feature Iâd love to offer my clients.
Yes we also dont have many clients who proactively ask for this. But when we get a project we mostly decide in-team if we want to use Webflow or something else. And everytime when the client needs to have some freedom to edit the website, Webflow is instantly out of the game.
This is definitely the right way to approach things. I wish Webflow worked for more use cases as it excels in a lot of areas over other options but ultimately it all comes down to what works best for my clients.
While we got Page Building for Marketers today; it looks like still no solution for dynamically updating navigation. Perhaps this is why they keep saying âlanding pagesâ when showing the Page Builder. It just seems like such a basic entry point component for many clients coming from other CMSâ but still no solution for us agencies with clients who donât want to pay us every time they need a page to appear in the nav.
@2X16 it would be nice to see the concept of âordered page setsâ introduced, which could be used in the same way CMS binding is used to populate collection lists - thumbnail, title, url, etc.
From that we could easily build dynamic navs and tile sets.
But for now you can hack something pretty similar using the CMS. The client would just have to add a row to the CMS every time they create e.g. a new âproject portfolioâ page in the page designer.
Thanks Michael⌠yeah, Iâve heard a few work arounds but all of them feel a little awkward/cumbersome for our clients coming from other CMSâ where this isnât even a question.
@2X16@memetican
I actually think there is another big problem with the new Page Building feature.
Price for the Marketer role
Edit Mode was free for every website with a CMS plan or higher, but the new Marketer role will cost my clients additional $35.- per month! just so that they can edit their website?
If I compare this to the pricing of the CMS hosting ($23.-) this seems waaay to expensive just for the client to edit their site.
Maybe I missed something here - so correct me if Iâm wrong. But to me it looks like Webflow tries to charge us for a feature that was free until now. (of course you can still use the old editor⌠but it was not updated since years and it is outdated)
The Marketer role is a paid feature as well?! Itâs just getting ridiculous at that point.
Every useful improvement of Webflow in recent years is costing way to much money. I serve mid sized companies and if I want to build a basic site including features like:
CMS Hosting 23$
Site Statistics 29$
3 Languages 27$
Marketer Role 35$
Workspace plan 3 Users 19$
âŚI have to explain 133$ monthly hosting fees leading to a yearly cost of 1596$ per year?
How is this justified?
Hmmm, yeah that does seem off⌠but I honestly didnât hear/see anything about pricing. Where did you see it? Iâm not seeing the âMarketerâ option on my account yet. Let me know if you get confirmation either way.
Also, if you want to push for dynamic nav, feel free to vote for it on the Wishlist here.
On-canvas editing was a huge step forward, and I am a bit disappointed that Webflow hasnât yet replaced the old âcontent editorâ seats ( 3 for CMS plan, 10 for Business ) with Editor-only designer seats.
That seems like an obvious migration to me, because itâs the same functionality, and it lets them simultaneously drop the content editor codebase and solve the localization support issue at the same time.
When you go beyond that base Site plan functionality, and want more designer capability, then a seat cost does make sense to me.
Marketer is an example of that- on the one hand itâs kind of an Editor+ role, but with page builder, etc itâs clearly going beyond that value proposition.
Iâm wondering how this plays into the typical small-site setup, in which the hosted site is in the clientâs workspace and they already have a designer seat since itâs their free workspace. With that, they can do unrestricted design on their hosted site.
The ideal config is to be able to voluntarily restrict the workspace ownerâs accountâs access to an Editor or Marketer role. Just to protect them so they canât accidentally delete site parts, break the CMS structure, etc.
Well said.
I also have to correct myself because my last comment was kind of misleading:
You can give your client access to the website with the Marketer role for free if you do it as @memetican described above.
But if you have your client projects in your own Workspace instead (as I do) you would have to add every client as a new Workspace member (which costs $35.- on an Agency plan) and give them the Marketer role.
I was looking for a solution to give clients access to the new build mode (or as a user with the marketer role) and found this thread. This is exactly my problem. We have clients who want to edit their own site, but adding an extra agency seat for $35 is way too expensive.
