Upcoming new features and pricing changes

@callmevlad This was very clearly laid out and communicated. Thank you guys for your hard work. It’s really making developing websites fun and easy. The cap on visitors is a bummer though. Will the webflow platform alert us if our site reaches the next level?

@rafdesign What are you referring to? We don’t charge for custom domains, we just offer hosting that “links” from your custom domain provider to our hosting platform. I think there might be a misunderstanding here - can you shoot me an email (vlad@webflow.com) or PM so I can clarify?

You’re right - we’re working on a much clearer pricing page design that will have these details and will launch on December 19th. We’ll also be de-listing some outdated forum posts (e.g. those that refer to paid CMS add-ons, collaborator fees, etc) once the new pricing goes into effect.

I currently pay $192/year + $5/month totaling $252.
So you’re saying $16x12 + $7.50x12 = $282.
So I guess it’s an increase :frowning:

I pay every month an extra $5 for my domainname www.rafaelmacho.com to your company in order to avoid the funny rafaelmacho.webflow.io that’s what I mean.

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@rafdesign If you only have one hosted project on your account, you only need the hosting plan going forward. That means that if you’re just hosting one site with Webflow, you can switch to just the Basic Hosting plan after December 19th, so your annual cost will drop significantly to $144! :tada:

If you have multiple projects you’re working on, then you can just keep your $192/year + $5/mo hosting plan forever, your price is being grandfathered in and won’t increase. Does that make sense?

Maybe this is gonna be great for the template marketplace.

As a Squarespace user considering Webflow , the Webflow pricing model seems way too complicated to me, and not competitive at all:

  • Why do I have to guess how many CMS items, site visits , or form submissions I am going to have? It would be easy to fall foul of any one of these limits. For many sites I’d argue you don’t know how big or how much traffic they will get eventually.

  • Squarespace allows unlimited bandwidth (visitors) on all its plans

So what’s the Webflow equivalent of the Squarespace personal plan? That allows unlimited traffic, unlimited blog posts, unlimited CMS items for $12 per month (annual pay). I can’t see that any of the Webflow hosting plans compete with Squarespace on price because even the business plan has a 10,000 CMS limit.

I’m just as interested in the User Interface changes you are working on, any clarity you can add to these changes would be appreciated. Webflow is quite a difficult interface coming from Squarespace (albeit you can do a lot more in Webflow)

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what is a reference?

Wait… wait wait wait wait… am I the only one here is who is missing one serious point.

We’re phasing out hosting discounts on paid plans starting on July 1st, 2017 (more details below).

Excuse me?

So any new clients I begin to host after this date will cost $15 per month on basic against the current $5 per month and $20 per month for CMS against the current rate of $10 per month? And I can make this slightly less worse IF I FRONT THE WHOLE YEAR

This significantly increases the overhead and brings my gains from a nice dime on the side to barely breaking even.

This is not good. This was pushed on us last year and we turned it around. Let’s not let this happen again. All of these new features are EXCELLENT and I’m super excited about it. But the majority of my clients will not need these features, they are just good to have if needed with particular clients. For the most part it’s just simple math. My overhead per month…

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I’m concerned about the hosting costs and what they mean for clients. Who will be OK with this once they do their research and see that other hosting services cost less and offer equal or better features? And forget about marking up prices even further through client billing!

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@steelmountain @TheBeev Thank you for sharing your feedback and concerns.

Our managed hosting plans have had tons of improvements over the years that have made them either on par or much better than other managed hosting solutions out there (like WPEngine, Flywheel, SquareSpace, etc). In most cases, these other providers are significantly more expensive than Webflow’s managed hosting plans, and don’t provide the rich level of customization and design tooling that Webflow provides.

Furthermore, we’ve had discussions with thousands of existing and potential customers around the features offered by our managed hosting plans (e.g. instant publish with staging and production sites, site backups, CDN distribution and performance, CMS Editor access, responsive images, 99.9% uptime, 24-7 managed servers, built-in SSL support, built-in form capture support that other providers charge the cost of our entire plan for, the list goes on…) and the overwhelming consensus was that our hosting prices are well within industry norms and provide a great value for the money when you perform an apples-to-apples comparison to other similar managed hosting services.

We are working on better education tools and resources to help understand all the benefits of our managed hosting plans (e.g. it’s world’s apart from your typical commodity shared-server type of hosting that GoDaddy, Bluehost, etc provide), which will hopefully help you communicate to your clients the advantages of hosting on Webflow’s platform.

But the majority of my clients will not need these features

To that point, I wanted to point out that Google Chrome will start displaying non-SSL sites as “unsafe” starting next year (Google Will Soon Label HTTP Websites as "Unsafe" - Web Design Ledger), so these new platform improvements should actually benefit all of your clients very soon.

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Wow. That’s an annoyingly complex price table (or maybe it’s just me).

Let me see if I got things right…

I currently have a legacy Personal plan ($192/year). The new Hobby plan (that has a very condescending name, by the way) will also cost $192/year. So far so good.

The problem is: now basic hosting costs $12/month instead of $5/month.

If I need to “update” to the Hobby plan and get 1 basic host after July/2017, I’ll have to pay $336/year instead of $252/year? Am I getting this right? How is that a good thing?

Why are people congratulating Webflow for a price hike?

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@ilustrebob Your current plan will stay at the same exact price forever. You’re not going to see a price hike on anything you already purchased from us.

In the scenario you outlined, if you create a brand new hosting subscription after July 2017, then the pricing for that new subscription will be the exact same price that the majority of our hosting subscribers have paid since we introduced managed hosting as a feature. So the only thing that’s changing here is the bundling of a very big discount (50%+) on future new hosting subscriptions with our multi-project plans.

So, my Personal plan won’t change to Hobby plan automatically? I man, Hobby plan allows less unhosted sites.

Also, I now the main plan price will be the same… it’s just that I was waiting for my site to be ready to purchase the $5/mo hosting. Now Webflow is imposing me a deadline (July, 2017), or the price will be $12/mo instead of $5/mo. I really don’t feel good about that.

It looks like that Webflow is moving away from casual users that are not profiting with the platform.

So, my Personal plan won’t change to Hobby plan automatically? I man, Hobby plan allows less unhosted sites.

Nope, you can keep the Personal plan forever if you’d like :slight_smile:

it’s just that I was waiting for my site to be ready to purchase the $5/mo hosting.

If you do end up needing longer than July 2017 to finish your site, we’d be happy to extend a special one-time discount to grandfather you in even if it’s completed after that date :thumbsup: Just let us know as you get closer to completing it, and we’ll take care of you!

Hi, is there any hosting discount for paid plans after July 2017 ? Thanks.

That would be awesome.

Thank you very much !!!

Couldn’t you just have the cheapest plan, and then download the code and upload it to your server?